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Badenoch says she’s against bill, citing teenager gender treatment as example of why NHS safeguards too weak

Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, has confirmed that she will vote against the bill. In interviews in recent weeks she has expressed strong reservations about the bill, but in an article for the Times she explains why she is definitely voting against.

She cites the experience of teenagers given medical treatment to change gender as one of the reasons why she does not think the NHS should be allowed to supervise assisted dying.

I fundamentally believe that giving people a level of control over how they die can be a sacred thing in and of itself, is the right thing to do and something we must get right. Yet, I find myself unable to support this bill as it stands today. That is because of experience of the state’s ability to deal with this sort of complexity.

During my time as a government minister, it became clear to me that our healthcare system is not able to cope with complex issues requiring serious safeguarding. I learnt this when clinicians, parents, whistleblowers and children came to me raising serious concerns of safeguarding failures in our gender identity development service.

None of the safeguards purportedly in place did anything to prevent young, often gay or autistic, children from receiving irreversible and damaging treatments. I saw a culture in which patients and parents felt unable to challenge medical professionals, and medical professionals were fearful of questioning patients.

And she says she took the final decision to vote against the bill when Keir Starmer seemed to rule out allowing extra time for its report stage in the Commons.

The moment I knew I could not personally support the bill was at prime minister’s questions, when Sir Alec Shelbrooke asked the prime minister whether he would allow MPs two days of debate to examine the details of the bill and any amendments.

The prime minister swiftly dismissed him, saying five hours was “sufficient time”. I knew that this same bureaucratic indifference to the sincere concerns raised by MPs would be reflected in the judicial and healthcare systems responsible for carrying out assisted dying for the most vulnerable in our society.

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Key events

Two frontbenchers are now winding up.

Kieran Mullan, a shadow justice minister, is summing up for the opposition. But it is a free vote, so there is no party position to sum up. Mullan says even the best pain relief cannot help some people who are dying.

But he also acknowledges that opponents of the bill, who place a premium on the sanctity of life, have a good argument.

He says MPs should vote with humility, and with respect for each vote cast, in whichever direction.

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If you want to read the debate, Hansard will have full transcript online here.

At this point the online version covers all speeches up to Kit Malthouse’s. The transcript is normally about three hours behind proceedings in the Commons. The whole thing should be up by 5.30pm.

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Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker, calls Vikki Slade, the Lib Dem MP. He says hers will be the final speech before the wind-ups.

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Kim Leadbeater makes a point of order. She says she wants to correct the record. She says in her speech earlier she said she had consulted the medical profession and the judiciary at the highest levels. She says she has been in correspondent with the Judicial Office. But she says the serving judiciary have not expressed a view on the bill, and she wants to make that clear.

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The Labour MP Florence Eshalomi said that she was opposed to the bill in part because minority groups would be particularly vulnerable. She explained:

We must recognise the hard truth that health inequalities are wide and persistent. We know that black and minority ethnic disabled people have far worse health outcomes than the national average.

I’ve seen this first-hand, caring for my mother who suffered with sickle cell anaemia.

As a teenager, I would be by her side when she was in excruciating pain, explaining to a doctor who would not believe her when she told them she needed lifesaving medication, and sadly this is still the reality today.

I am reminded of the death of Evan Smith on April 25 [2019] at North Middlesex Hospital.

Evan suffered from sickle cell too. He was in so much pain that he had to ring 999 from his hospital bed because he was denied oxygen and basic care by the doctors.

Put simply: we should be helping people to live comfortable, pain-free lives on their own terms before we think about making it easier for them to die …

How can we be possibly satisfied that this bill would deliver equality and freedom in death when we do not yet have this in life?

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The Green party MP Siân Berry told MPs in the debate that she was in favour of the bill.

While we don’t have to choose between this Bill and better palliative care, we do have to give dying people the right to choose which ending is right for them, so please, please vote for this bill today.

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Robert Jenrick claims bill will be changed ‘fundamentally’ by ‘activist judges in Strasbourg’ if it’s passed

Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, told MPs that he was opposed to the bill and that, if it passed, “activist judges in Strasbourg” would change it. He explained:

Let’s think about the role of judges. The test which is to be applied is a low one, it’s the civil law threshold, this is a balance of probabilities. This means a judge could see real risk of coercion and still sign-off this individual for assisted death; if the threshold was not reached of 50% or more, the judge would sign-off the individual.

I worry, in fact I am as certain as night follows day, this law if passed will change. Not as a result of the individuals in this chamber or in the Lords, but as a result of judges in other places.

We’ve seen that time and again. It may be on either side of the debate but it will happen. This act, if passed, will be subject to activist judges in Strasbourg [where the European court of human rights is based]. They will change it fundamentally and we have to be prepared for that. I don’t want to see that happen.

Jenrick was speaking from the backbenches, not as a party spokesperson. But when he was standing to be Conservative leader, calling for withdrawal from the ECHR was his most important policy proposal.

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Protesters opposed to the assisted dying bill outside parliament today.
Photograph: Vuk Valcic/ZUMA Press Wire/REX/Shutterstock
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John Hayes (Con) told MPs that he was against the bill because it would change the relationship between patients and doctors.

This bill changes the relationship between clinicians and patients forever. It says to the NHS, your job is not only protect and preserve life, it is sometimes to take life. I am not prepared for our NHS to be changed in that way, and beyond that it changes society’s view of what life and death is all about.

There are many cruel and spiteful and ruthless and unkind people in the world and there are many vulnerable and frail people, and when those two collide, it’s not a good outcome for the second of those groups.

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Alicia Kearns (Con) told MPs that her mother’s experience of cancer made her support assisted dying.

Imagine a situation where you have cancer that day by day is breaking every individual vertebrae on your body, one by one. There is nothing that can take away the pain, and that is a situation in which my mother lost her life, her last words were ‘I cannot go on like this’.

And thankfully for her, there were only a few more days of pain. But for others, there are months, and before they get to that six months, they will have suffered from years of excruciating agony that palliative care cannot resolve.

To deny choice to others, especially those with only six months to live, where their personal choice does no harm, is wrong.

And the Labour MP Rachel Hopkins said her grandfather, Harold Hopkins, “suffered greatly” as he was dying from cancer.

It was the haunted look on my father’s face when he arrived home – having spent the final few days with Harold in terrible pain and suffering before he finally died – that had a lasting impression on me, and that surely in a modern society, if we are able to live a good life, we must be able to have a good death.

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The head of the race equality thinktank has warned of ‘devastating consequences’ if assisted dying bill is allowed to pass.

Jabeer Butt, chief executive of the Race Equality Foundation, pointed to the Liverpool Care Pathway, which was abolished a decade ago, where a government review heard that hospital staff wrongly interpreted its guidance for care of the dying, leading to stories of patients who were drugged and deprived of fluids in their last weeks of life.

Butt said:

The assisted dying bill represents a dangerous slippery slope. For decades, the NHS has struggled to protect life adequately. Framing assisted dying as a ‘better solution’ exposes a health system failing to provide the care and support people need for a reasonable quality of life.

My own experience with the Liverpool Care Pathway showed the devastating consequences when appropriate care is denied—loved ones were lost needlessly.

Instead of embracing this approach again, which has proven flawed in the past, we must focus on fixing the system. Where are the safeguards? Even clinicians who initially supported these measures often later express doubts. We cannot afford to repeat mistakes that cost lives.

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No 10 hints Louise Haigh’s resignation linked to breach of ministerial code

Rowena Mason

Rowena Mason

Downing Street are refusing to be clear about the circumstances around Louise Haigh’s resignation but at the lobby briefing this morning No 10 appeared to be hinting that she might have broken the seven principles of public life or the ministerial code.

The prime minister’s spokesperson repeatedly told reporters this morning:

Following further information emerging, the prime minister has accepted Louise Haigh’s resignation.

When asked what Starmer knew about Haigh’s spent conviction, what the further information was that emerged, and why he appointed her to cabinet, the spokesman gave the same scripted line over and over again.

Asked about what she had declared to the government, the spokesman said:

[There are] clear rules around declarations and that on appointment to office ministers must provide their permanent secretary with a full declaration in writing of private interests which might be thought to give rise to a conflict actual or perceived …

The permanent secretary will review the minister’s declarations in light of their responsibilities and in discussion with the minister advise on actions needed to manage any interests. The interests must be shared with the independent adviser and this must occur within 14 days …

Ministers must record in writing what action has been taken as a result of advice received from the permanent secretary and the independent adviser and provide the permanent secretary and independent adviser with a copy.

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Many MPs have been using social media to say how they will vote in the debate today. Here are some of their messages posted this morning.

Shaun Davies, Labour MP for Telford, is voting for.

Today, 29 Nov, the Assisted Dying Bill has its 2nd reading in Parliament. I’ve carefully considered your views & intend to vote in favour of it proceeding. You can hear more in my video. Thank you to everyone who has shared their views and experiences with me on this matter. pic.twitter.com/zE6595LZ4u

— Shaun Davies MP (@ShaunDaviesMP) November 29, 2024

Saqib Bhatti, Conservative MP for Meriden and Solihull East, is against.

After much consideration, I have concluded that I cannot support the Private Members Bill on Assisted Dying today.

Thank you to all, on both sides of this issue, who contacted me and the constructive and considerate way they have done so.

My statement is below 👇 pic.twitter.com/rTzcxn3h1W

— Saqib Bhatti MP (@bhatti_saqib) November 29, 2024

Tonia Antoniazzi, Labour MP for Gower, who spoke in the debate earlier, is for

Jeremy Corbyn, the former Labour leader, who is now an independent MP, says he cannot support the bill.

Charlie Maynard, Lib Dem MP for Witney, is for (at least for now).

Many constituents have contacted me regarding the Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill (Assisted Dying Bill).

Both sides of the debate have made their cases passionately, in the national press and media throughout the country in all our communities. Similarly, I have… pic.twitter.com/v8EoabUYy7

— Charlie Maynard 🔶 Liberal Democrat (@cammaynard) November 29, 2024

Lee Anderson, the Reform UK MP for Ashfield, says his constituents are in favour (but he does not say here how he will vote).

Kirsteen Sullivan, Labour MP for Bathgate and Linlithgow, says she cannot back the bill.

Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill

After careful consideration & hearing from many constituents & experts, I have decided that I cannot support the Bill. I am sympathetic to the principle of assisted dying but must vote on the Bill as it stands.

My full statement below: pic.twitter.com/nTTRauws2e

— Kirsteen Sullivan MP (@kittysull1) November 29, 2024

Callum Anderson, the Labour MP for Buckingham and Bletchley, says he is in favour.

ICYMI – the below sets out my reasoning for why I am voting in favour of today’s Assisted Dying Bill.

I know that this has weighed a lot on all of our minds as MPs, and I’m proud of the considered and thoughtful debates and conversations we have had so far. https://t.co/YPuX2SGYxL

— Callum Anderson MP (@_CallumAnderson) November 29, 2024

Ruth Jones, Labour MP for Newport West, is against.

Tulip Siddiq, a Treasury minister, is for.

I take my responsibilities as an MP very seriously and, after careful consideration, I have decided to vote for the Bill on assisted dying today.

I believe it has the necessary safeguards to give terminally ill people the right to end their lives safely and on their own terms.

— Tulip Siddiq (@TulipSiddiq) November 29, 2024

Nigel Huddleston, the Conservative co-chair, is against.

I would like to thank the many constituents who have reached out to me to express their views on assisted dying.
I have heard many heart wrenching personal stories and there are valid and compelling arguments on both sides of the debate.
But I cannot support this bill in full… pic.twitter.com/Ho2Qj9cjpO

— Nigel Huddleston MP (@HuddlestonNigel) November 29, 2024

Rachel Taylor, the Labour MP for North Warwickshire and Bedworth, is for.

David Reed, Conservative MP for Exmouth and Exeter East, is against.

Polly Billington, Labour MP for East Thanet, is against.

Nia Griffith, a Welsh Office minister, is against.

Thank you to everyone who has been in touch about the assisted dying vote taking place in Parliament today.

After careful consideration, I will be voting against the Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill. pic.twitter.com/49oNCOmpnz

— Nia Griffith MP (@NiaGriffithMP) November 29, 2024

Zubir Ahmed, Labour MP for Glasgow South West, is against.

Today MPs are being asked to vote on the Assisted Dying Private Members Bill.

After deep consideration, investigation and reflection, I intend to vote against it.

Please see the letter below outlining my reasons. pic.twitter.com/WfuB9TmYI1

— Dr Zubir Ahmed MP (@zubirahmed) November 29, 2024

Steff Aquarone, Lib Dem MP for North Norfolk, is in favour.

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Carla Lockhart (DUP) says the safeguards against coercion in the bill are not adequate. The bill will change the way society values life. And it will put vulnerable people at risk. That is why she and her DUP colleagues will be voting against the bill.

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Anna Dixon (Lab), another MP who signed the reasoned amendment saying the bill should not get a second reading to allow time for a full policy review, said she did not believe the procedure for private member’s bill was adequate for an issue of this complexity. In line with the precautionary principle, the bill should be blocked until there has been a proper public consultation, she says.

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David Davis backs bill, but says government should allocate four days for its report stage debate

David Davis, the former Conservative cabinet minister, says he has changed his mind on this bill. He will vote for it today, he says. But this is only second reading, he says. If he is not happy with the bill, he could vote against at third reading, he says.

If the bill looks as if it will create a Belgian version of assisted dying, or a Canadian version, he would vote against, he says. But if the bill follows the Australian model, he will vote in favour.

But he does urge the government to allow more time for debate. He says the report stage, where all MPs (not just the MPs serving on the public bill committee) get the chance to vote on amendments, should last for four days. (Under the normal procedure, it would just get a few hours on a Friday.) He says this bill is more important to constituents than most of the bills in the Labour manifesto.

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Marie Tidball (Lab) says today’s decision is the hardest she has had to make during a career in disability law and policy. She says she did not expect to be voting for the bill, but she will be doing so. She says she thinks it is right that people should have the option of assisted dying, but she says she would like to see stronger safeguards introduced as the bill goes through parliament.

UPDATE: Tidball said:

When I was six years old I had major surgery on my hips. I was in body plaster from my chest to my ankles, in so much pain and requiring so much morphine that my skin began to itch. I remember vividly laying in a hospital bed in Sheffield Children’s Hospital and saying to my parents ‘I want to die, please let me die’.

I needed to escape from that body that I was inhabiting. That moment has come back to me all these years later. That moment made it clear to me that if the bill was about intolerable suffering I would not be voting for it.

Tidball said she had since lived a “good life”, but added:

That moment also gave my a glimpse of how I would want to live my death, just as I have lived my life. Empowered by choices available to me. Living that death with dignity and respect and having the comfort of knowing that I might have control over that very difficult time.

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Back in the Commons, Tim Farron, the former Lib Dem leader, says is he opposed to the bill. It will create a space for coercion, he says.

He recalls what happened when his mother was told she was terminally ill. A doctor said terminally ill people often suffer from depression. That is why they would be vulnerable to coercion, he says.

He says the government’s own suicide prevention adviser is against this bill.

And he says he is opposing this bill as a liberal. He is a liberal, not a libertarian, he says. He says people should not have a freedom if it encroaches on someone else’s freedom, and giving people the right to assisted dying would stop people from being free from coercion to die, he says.

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